If you watched Dr. Phil today, you saw Kyla of Southwest miniskirt fame on the show with her mother and lawyer discussing their lawsuit intentions. At first Kyla said she just wanted an apology from Southwest. (As you know, she got that apology from CEO Gary Kelly). But then, to Dr. Phil’s surprise, she suggested that she wasn’t done with this issue yet. But Dr. Phil thought Kyla should let it go and move on.
From the transcript that you can read on “Etiquette Dilemmas”
Dr. Phil turns to Kyla. “I think what happened to you was not right,” he sympathizes. “But there’s a point at which you make your statement and move on instead of trying to cash in and make it a payday.”
The Kyla segment was followed by another “Etiquette Dillemna” in which a mother and her chatty toddler were escorted off a Continental Airlines plane after a stewardess told the mom, “You need to shut your baby up.” And followed her statement with suggesting the mom drug her kid with “Baby Benadryl”. It was the 19-month-old son’s first flight. Believe it or not they turned the plane around to let them off the plane.
Virgin America came to the rescue and offered the mother (and everyone in the audience) a free round-trip ticket. Dr. Phil said that Virgin America is trying to put the fun back in flying, and showed off pictures of the planes.
I’m ready for this topic to be over, but it was good fun to see Dr. Phil’s take on the situation and excellent that he found other victims of airline etiquette. Did you read Chris Reynold’s piece, “Opinion: In-flight dress codes? How skimpy is too skimpy?”
What do you think — how skimpy is too skimpy?
Related Los Angeles Times links:
Southwest Airlines seeks to minimize in-flight attire debate
Opinion: In-flight dress codes? How skimpy is too skimpy?
Virgin America returns the frills to flying
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September 19th, 2007 at 7:15 am
There was a time (1940s and 1950s) when we all dressed to fly (beach wear was not in). The security system was easy. After we each had 6 martinis none of us were a security problem. We, also, saw a lot more small airports as we crossed te country. So it was not a good idea to be wearing a jock strap only or dressed as a lap dancer as we landed in Salt Lake City..
But, this is the time of cashing in on any thing you can get a jury to go for (spilling coffee in your lap). You do not suppose we are as the one candidate said, (”dumber and fatter”)
September 19th, 2007 at 9:14 am
This Kyla is looking for a payday. She has no damages. I get embarrassed all the time so what. I don’t think her outfit was not that bad and she has a great body, but that face of hers is a two bagger. I guess when you are as ugly as her you have to wear short skirts to keep people looking at something other than her face.
September 19th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Who care what Dr. Phil thinks of anything? He is not the person to be waggling an accusing finger at ANYONE about ‘looking for a payout’. The man’s whole quack career is one big payout! He’s a media shill, spouting nonsense to justify his version of the Jerry Springer Show. I much prefer Jerry’s sly honesty to Dr. Quack and his drivel. Isn’t his 15 minutes long over?
September 19th, 2007 at 11:47 am
Precedent should be made not to allow the airlines to get away with such nonsense.
She should sue!
September 19th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Here’s the problem with 19 month olds–they CRY A LOT. Especially on noisy airplanes where there are a lot of strangers. Airlines KNOW that small children cry on planes, and cause untold misery for hundreds of trapped passengers at a time.
So why haven’t airlines and aircraft designers responded by creating some kind of “quiet room” space on planes?
It used to be that most public spaces–churches, stores, restaurants, airports, hospitals, etc.–had quiet rooms, where people could take their children when they were crying or behaving in other socially difficult ways, until the child was in control of him/herself again.
It’s time to resurrect that old ‘courtesy’ as a way of preserving the sanity of those of us who either don’t have children, or who don’t drag them around like a dog in a purse, whether they’re cranky and crying or not.
In fact, combining quiet spaces with lactation facilities for nursing mothers–THAT’S something we should pass a law requiring!
September 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
What we saw on TV was NOT what the airline passengers and employees were looking at. Come on, people, use your brains.
September 19th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
[...] Although open for a story and a potential sponsorship deal with Victoria Secret, I sadly arrived in Los Angeles without either. But what was sadder, was that Ms. Ebbert and her “Mini-skirt” drama still flooded the news. Dr. Phil? ABC? Enough. Initially, it did appear as an act of lunacy for Southwest –– the airline that started its brand with flight attendants parading around in hot pants — to now be harassing a customer for showing a similar amount of skin. Was it the carrier’s poor judgment? [...]
September 24th, 2007 at 9:18 am
Kyla forgot to tell you she was flashing her butte in the lobby…. and ooops! She also had forgotten to wear her panties. She pulled her skirt down low for the pictures… and her top up high. The customers were the ones who complained abt. her attire. She was politely asked by a customer supervisor (not a flight atted.) to step off the plane. After stepping off, the supervisor discussed her attire in a discreet manner. I am a flight attendant for Southwest. Kyla is looking for attention and a free load.
September 25th, 2007 at 8:26 am
First thing to be noted is that I am not a fan of Dr. Phil. For me to applaud him in his response to Kyla about the lawsuit is that much bigger than you can imagine. This is the problem with our legal system, that this could even entertain the idea of getting into a court of law. This woman is out for her payday and hopefully not only will this not happen, but hopefully Southwest can find it in themselves to bring slander charges against her. As for her lawyer, this is exactly why lawyers are portrayed as the lowest form of professional. If you move quickly there is an ambulance somewhere you should follow.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:19 am
I am on the side of SWA. A photo of Kyla shows her mini skirt half way up to her thighs. A female’s hips spread when they are seated. I would not want to sit in an airline seat where someone sat in a mini skirt for hours and not knowing if they were sweating or if they wore any underwear, panties, or a thong. Street and shopping attire are not always appropriate on an airline where passengers are seated closely for long hours. Even grocery stores require shoes and shirts for protection of their customers. I hope SWA counter sues Kyla for her jeopardizing fellow passengers.
March 9th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
None of us really have a clue what she was showing under the skirt but if it is any indication of what was blurred out on NATIONAL Tv then cmon ? Do we really need to see some woman’s whoohaa ?
March 14th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
i think that she should be able to wear what she wants to wear, i mean she looked great, she should not have been pulled off the plain for that. I mean we dont pull people off the plain for bad body odour or other reason, which may affect the customers just as much, or we dont pull them aside. so why beacuse of what u are wearing!
March 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Not only is it disgusting to sit next to someone dressed/or semi-dressed due to the fact that if they prespire, it stinks, and if they wear short shorts or mini skirts that tend to move up when you sit, they could leave prespiration spots on the seat and I’d hate to be the next person to sit there - ugh!!